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Old March 9th, 2007, 17:18
Eric Desrochers
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Erratic reception on BEV

Hello! 3100 receiver here with regular subscription. Begining
yesterday, I have about half the channels OK and the other half looking
for a sat signal. Uppon closer inspection, it turns out only the even
numbered transponders are "gone". The even ones have near 100% signal.

Anyone know what may be causing this? The only thing I can see is the
strong winds we are experiencing now, but if the antenna is out of
alignment, why half the channels are still strong?

Thanks!

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Old March 9th, 2007, 17:18
AMUN
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Re: Erratic reception on BEV

Assuming you meant to type even/odd.
And also assuming you are only using one bird.

In checking order
Check cable connections for ANY corrosion.
Check for bad cable
Check for bad LNB
Check for bad switch (if applicable).
Check for defective receiver.

What you have to look for is that the receiver changes the voltage sent to
the LNB, this should change between (approx) 13 volts, and 18 volts as you
go from even to odd.

It is unlikely that your problem is caused by the aim being off. but never
hurts to check



"Eric Desrochers" <dero72@mac.com> wrote in message
news:1huk1j3.hxct6d1575eeaN%dero72@mac.com...
> Hello! 3100 receiver here with regular subscription. Begining
> yesterday, I have about half the channels OK and the other half looking
> for a sat signal. Uppon closer inspection, it turns out only the even
> numbered transponders are "gone". The even ones have near 100% signal.
>
> Anyone know what may be causing this? The only thing I can see is the
> strong winds we are experiencing now, but if the antenna is out of
> alignment, why half the channels are still strong?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Eric (Dero) Desrochers
> http://homepage.mac.com/dero72
>
> " Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 "



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Old March 9th, 2007, 17:18
Steve Walsh
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Re: Erratic reception on BEV

Definitely sounds like a bad LNB. I had this happen last summer...



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"AMUN" <spamblocker@bell.net> wrote in message news:eskeap$5se$1@aioe.org...
> Assuming you meant to type even/odd.
> And also assuming you are only using one bird.
>
> In checking order
> Check cable connections for ANY corrosion.
> Check for bad cable
> Check for bad LNB
> Check for bad switch (if applicable).
> Check for defective receiver.
>
> What you have to look for is that the receiver changes the voltage sent to
> the LNB, this should change between (approx) 13 volts, and 18 volts as you
> go from even to odd.
>
> It is unlikely that your problem is caused by the aim being off. but never
> hurts to check
>
>
>
> "Eric Desrochers" <dero72@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:1huk1j3.hxct6d1575eeaN%dero72@mac.com...
>> Hello! 3100 receiver here with regular subscription. Begining
>> yesterday, I have about half the channels OK and the other half looking
>> for a sat signal. Uppon closer inspection, it turns out only the even
>> numbered transponders are "gone". The even ones have near 100% signal.
>>
>> Anyone know what may be causing this? The only thing I can see is the
>> strong winds we are experiencing now, but if the antenna is out of
>> alignment, why half the channels are still strong?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Eric (Dero) Desrochers
>> http://homepage.mac.com/dero72
>>
>> " Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 "

>
>



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Old March 9th, 2007, 17:18
sbmfj
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Re: Erratic reception on BEV

take off the conector that screws into the ird
see of there ios any back crap on it
I had that problem
I cleaned it, and cut the cable about an inch, put on a 'screw o connector'
and no porblems since
goodluck
James


"Eric Desrochers" <dero72@mac.com> wrote in message
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> AMUN <spamblocker@bell.net> wrote:
>
>> Assuming you meant to type even/odd.
>> And also assuming you are only using one bird.

>
> Hello. Yes, odd number transponders give 90% + reception and the even
> number transponders alternate between mostly no signal and brief good
> signal.
>
> I'll go outside check the connections.
>
> My cable is the 100 feet one provided by Bell in their installation kit.
>
>> What you have to look for is that the receiver changes the voltage sent
>> to
>> the LNB, this should change between (approx) 13 volts, and 18 volts as
>> you
>> go from even to odd.

>
> I'll check that too, thanks!
>
> --
> Eric (Dero) Desrochers
> http://homepage.mac.com/dero72
>
> " Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 "
>



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Old March 9th, 2007, 17:18
AMUN
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Re: Erratic reception on BEV

It's a possibility.
But LNB's very rarely fail.
More often they had a simple bad connection, and when you unspin the cable
to swap in a new one the new one works fine, and many just blame the LNB.
When just disconnecting it and reconnecting, cleans the connection enough
that you are back in business.
Especially if the original installer simply used indoor 15 cent crimp-on
coax connectors.....DON'T LAUGH, IT HAPPENS!





"Steve Walsh" <swalsh@odyssey.on.ca> wrote in message
news:HLqdnVxKn49tInDYnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@golden.net.. .
> Definitely sounds like a bad LNB. I had this happen last summer...
>
>
>
> --
> *************************************************
> STEVE WALSH
> Email: swalsh@odyssey.on.ca
> MSN: same as above
> *************************************************
> "AMUN" <spamblocker@bell.net> wrote in message
> news:eskeap$5se$1@aioe.org...
>> Assuming you meant to type even/odd.
>> And also assuming you are only using one bird.
>>
>> In checking order
>> Check cable connections for ANY corrosion.
>> Check for bad cable
>> Check for bad LNB
>> Check for bad switch (if applicable).
>> Check for defective receiver.
>>
>> What you have to look for is that the receiver changes the voltage sent
>> to the LNB, this should change between (approx) 13 volts, and 18 volts as
>> you go from even to odd.
>>
>> It is unlikely that your problem is caused by the aim being off. but
>> never hurts to check
>>
>>
>>
>> "Eric Desrochers" <dero72@mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:1huk1j3.hxct6d1575eeaN%dero72@mac.com...
>>> Hello! 3100 receiver here with regular subscription. Begining
>>> yesterday, I have about half the channels OK and the other half looking
>>> for a sat signal. Uppon closer inspection, it turns out only the even
>>> numbered transponders are "gone". The even ones have near 100% signal.
>>>
>>> Anyone know what may be causing this? The only thing I can see is the
>>> strong winds we are experiencing now, but if the antenna is out of
>>> alignment, why half the channels are still strong?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eric (Dero) Desrochers
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/dero72
>>>
>>> " Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 "

>>
>>

>
>



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Old March 9th, 2007, 17:18
Eric Desrochers
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Re: Erratic reception on BEV

AMUN <spamblocker@bell.net> wrote:

> Assuming you meant to type even/odd.
> And also assuming you are only using one bird.


Hello. Yes, odd number transponders give 90% + reception and the even
number transponders alternate between mostly no signal and brief good
signal.

I'll go outside check the connections.

My cable is the 100 feet one provided by Bell in their installation kit.

> What you have to look for is that the receiver changes the voltage sent to
> the LNB, this should change between (approx) 13 volts, and 18 volts as you
> go from even to odd.


I'll check that too, thanks!

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" Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 "
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Old March 9th, 2007, 17:18
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Re: Erratic reception on BEV

I would never have guessed it! I first checked the connection on the
receiver (inside the house obviously!) and just while I was unscrewing
it, the picture came back! For some reasons, the connection would break
if I screw the cable too tight!

I work in audiovisual and stage show sound, lighting and video
projection so I regularly have to troubleshoot such bugs in complex
systems. The connector inside the house would have been my last guess
since it's protected from the elements and not accessible to people and
pets to un-set it.

Besides, I measured 19 volts DC on the antenna connector.

Thanks all for the suggestions!

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Re: Erratic reception on BEV


"Eric Desrochers" <dero72@mac.com> wrote in message
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>I would never have guessed it! I first checked the connection on the
> receiver (inside the house obviously!) and just while I was unscrewing
> it, the picture came back! For some reasons, the connection would break
> if I screw the cable too tight!
>
> I work in audiovisual and stage show sound, lighting and video
> projection so I regularly have to troubleshoot such bugs in complex
> systems. The connector inside the house would have been my last guess
> since it's protected from the elements and not accessible to people and
> pets to un-set it.
>
> Besides, I measured 19 volts DC on the antenna connector.
>
> Thanks all for the suggestions!
>
> --


Glad to see you found it without having to freeze your ***'s off.
You may just have a broken wire or loose coax connector, but check to see if
the connector on the IRD may be broken loose (bad solder joint) inside the
RF cage as well.
Mind you if worse comes to worse, a 3100 can be replaced quite cheaply
($20-$40) .


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Old March 9th, 2007, 17:18
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Re: Erratic reception on BEV

> Glad to see you found it without having to freeze your ***'s off.
> You may just have a broken wire or loose coax connector, but check to see if
> the connector on the IRD may be broken loose (bad solder joint) inside the
> RF cage as well.
> Mind you if worse comes to worse, a 3100 can be replaced quite cheaply
> ($20-$40) .


Anyway, I just want the thing to work for a a couple more months since I
intend on going HD, more than likely with Starchoice, since BEV doesn't
have a sensible upgrade path for existing users...

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Old March 21st, 2007, 11:03
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Re: Erratic reception on BEV

If you buy an HD IRD and have the proper switch(S) with you, its a free
installation.
If you're missing a switch.. ie- have a 6100 w/ an sw21 and need an sw44 to
go along with the other 2-3 basic IRDs,
you're on the hook for the 179$ install fee (via credit card) yet credited
back in full onto your account.

Also, if you have 4 standard irds, and want to sub to varitey3 (on N2), you
are also eligible for the promo
and will be credited.

The 9220 comes with an sw44. if you have 5 irds and adding the 9200 as a
sixth, you'll need a second sw44, thus
get the promo and will be credited back in full since BXV only provides 1
sw44 per 9200.

***The condition is you sub to N2 programming (HD or Standard) for the first
time.

hope this helps






"Eric Desrochers" <dero72@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Nimiq1 <pfltd@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Express Vu's current promotion for Existing customers is about as good
> > as it gets.
> >
> > Buy or rent an HD receiver and all installation costs will be credited
> > back in the form of programming credits.
> >
> > That sounds reasonable to me.....
> >
> > Nimiq 1

>
> Can you please provide a link.
>
> Last time I checked they offered a 400$ rebate when buying a new Sony TV
> set. I don't need a new TV, even less of a dawn Sony. Beside, their
> only HD receiver is a high end 600$ PVR recorder with dual tuner, which
> I don't need.
>
> Starchoice have their entry level HD model for 250$, 100$ credit on
> programmation, 50$ Pay per view and additionnal 10$ rebate for web
> order, for a net price of about 90$, installed. I can then offload the
> 3100 on eBay for 40-50 USD curent going price. THIS IS the kind of
> offer I like.
>
> Not mentionning 4$ less per month for basic sub, with some more included
> HD channels.
>
> *I would* pay 250$ for an equivalent HD receiver from BEV. Not 600$.
>
> --
> Eric (Dero) Desrochers
> http://homepage.mac.com/dero72
>
> " Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 "




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